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dr jane goodall this is mission control

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houston please call station for a voice

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check

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this is jane goodall and how are you

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dr goodall this is mike fossum the

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commander of expedition 29 on the space

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station with my crewmate satoshi

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furukawa and we hear you excellently

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and i hear you excellently and mike and

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satoshi and i'm really excited to be

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talking to you and i thought i would

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start off by giving you the greeting of

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we're ready

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and this could be good morning or it be

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very good very good thank you very much

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well what an honor it is to speak to you

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dr goodall it you know you've been an

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inspiration for all of us that that love

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well i'm very excited talking to you and

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you know

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the year i set out for gumby national

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park in 1960 was about the time that the

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first chimpanzee ham was shot in space

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i of course they uh they really helped

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pave the way and prove that that you

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that that uh primates that living

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animals could survive the

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the exposure to this space in the zero

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zero gravity environment

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yes and i met some of the early

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astronauts you know i met john glenn

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several times and also buzz aldrin

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well they are definitely heroes to us

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and we stand on the shoulders of of

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of uh john glenn buzz aldrin and you

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know and all of the guys that came

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before us that have led through the 50

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years now of human space flight to have

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led us to where we are today with this

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great laboratory 240 miles above the

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earth with 15 nations in cooperation

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well

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you know it's fantastic and there's your

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lab i i gather it's about the size of a

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football pitch

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and it's still going 50 years after

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these first flights in space with the

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chimps and the gombi national park where

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i do my research it's still going 50

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years later and that's quite a lot

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bigger with chimpanzees living in the

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wild and lots of forests so very

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different places but we're still going

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and we're still finding new things and

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what sort of science are you doing up

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we have a wide variety of science uh

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actual crystal growth kinds of things

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to plant growth

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there's a combustion experiments looking

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the the

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breaking into the real physics of the

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flame in the zero gravity environment

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you take away the convection currents

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and and you can understand a little more

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of the details of

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of the flame and looking for ways to buy

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just a small percentage of efficiency in

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a combustion process for instance

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as well as we are the guinea pigs up

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here we're the primates that are being

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investigated up here as they they

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were carefully monitored for bone loss

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effects or potential ill effects from

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you've been living there six months

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i think satoshi you've been there for

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three months or something like that i

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oh we can arrange for that absolutely

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and have adapted quite well to what it's

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i know john glenn flew when he was 77

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that's the age i am now maybe one day i

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come and visit you up there

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ah you see that's fantastic

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hold that thought i i think you're we're

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really on to something our most seasoned

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experienced astronaut flew at 77 and so

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we need to get you up here to study the

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world from a different point of view

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instead of down in the micro point of

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the beautiful rainforest as we fly over

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them it's just astonishing

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um i really really appreciate that uh

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little show of being without gravity

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thank you very much both of you

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and i have one question

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from up there can you can you see

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something of the damage that our human

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behavior is inflicting on this poor old

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planet can you can you see anything

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about the health of the planet and the

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uh one thing that's been of interest

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lately of course with the the the

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terrific uh wildfires in texas uh where

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where i grew up as you could see that

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that smoke haze stretching really across

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the planet uh particularly strong right

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in the local area but you see that haze

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it stretches across the planet there's

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parts of our globe that have fires on a

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fairly routine basis as they clear the

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south america where the the land is

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being cleared and anytime there's a road

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you can see the the the rainforest

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actually being um being cut into along

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the road as the as the the you know the

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people are trying to find a way to farm

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and to live and and using it in that way

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toward the east in general until you

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uh the drainage of the amazon river and

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the ground looked black

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and unbroken except for this rivers that

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were flowing through it and

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you're not used to seeing that in most

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places of the globe you see where we're

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or or forestry you see how we're you

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totally black it didn't look green it

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looked black

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or very very very dark green and that

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was untouched uh and what i saw was just

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the the untouched top canopy of that

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forest down there it was quite marvelous

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well that's terrific

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i i'm just thinking that there's a

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synergy between you guys up there

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and what we the jane goodall institute

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are trying to do with conservation of

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the forests on the ground and and

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monitoring what's going on the sort of

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work we're doing with with esri and

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digital globe maybe we can all join

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forces for the sake i know you've got

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children um mike you've got a grandchild

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i've got three grandchildren and the

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future of the planet

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our precious planet for you guys up

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we can get together and join forces for

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for the future of children grandchildren

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and everybody all the animals that are

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it is striking when you see our planet

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from up above you see a world where the

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borders those colored lines we draw on

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maps don't show up

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or only in a couple of

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unique instances can you see such a

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thing a man-made structure like that

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from state from space but it to me one

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of the striking things too is just the

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very thin atmosphere if you stretch your

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at the window and look the atmosphere is

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about half the thickness of my little

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finger and that's to me it's really

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striking to think how thin that layer is

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that that holds you know everything

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our atmosphere it keeps the pressure

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keeps the water and everything else

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intact for us and it's a it's a finite

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thing we think of it looking on the

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ground and up at the endless heavens we

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i i think it's it's very scary when i

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think how we in our mindless way down

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here are damaging that very precious

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over western africa where we have

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projects on the ground

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and you know sometimes when i'm in gombe

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i can you know we see satellites going

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satellite and i find this you know

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really very very exciting and um

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you know where this this little

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interview is going to be played in 500

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cinemas on the 27th right across america

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and i wonder is there anybody in those

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cinemas you want to say hello to

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uh i would like to say hello well to all

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of the people that are interested in

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seeing this you know you know we we

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understand and we're with you in

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particular i'd like to say to the to the

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children who are contemplating a future

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for themselves that science and

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it could be in ways blamed on science

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and technology you know we we could

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blame perhaps internal combustion

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engines we could blame our desire to to

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to extract ores from the ground or

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things like that so in a lot of ways the

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human impact on our planet has been

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hastened by technology but i think that

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technology is also our hope for finding

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cleaner better ways more efficient ways

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to do things because i don't see us

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turning our back on technology

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and that the challenge out there is to

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find ways to be smarter about it to be

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cleaner about it to be find ways

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using the resources we have in as

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renewable way as possible and so

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is going to help us in the future too

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you might blame it for where we are but

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it also will help us in the future and

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it's wonderful exciting areas with a lot

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of work to do in all areas of science

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that many many challenges many

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opportunities and you know great things

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and so if the children understand that

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there's their way of understanding the

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how things work is through that science

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and so they as they lay on that beach

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looking up at the stars

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and the science is the way of helping

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understand how it all happened what puts

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and it's a marvelous thing to to dream

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about as a child and then find ways to

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absolutely and

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you know we have this program roots and

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shoots which is now in 120 countries

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and it's all about science and living in

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harmony with the environment

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and dreaming about what you want to do

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and following that dream like i did and

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like you both did and and i think that

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if we link in our roots into children

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who are all ages from preschool through

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university

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with what you're doing up there i mean

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this would be a whole new link and maybe

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you can involve your children and your

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grandchild uh with all these other

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children and we can take them a whole

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new message and give them a whole new

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possibility of what they might do that

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they can start dreaming about and you

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can encourage them and in this way we

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link the heavens with the ground through

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the youth and we link today with

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tomorrow through the young people

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through science and technology but also

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that's a delightful proposition i i'd

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say for satoshi

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myself there's definitely a 12 year old

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child in each of us that

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enjoys just peering out the window up

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and i think that to engage children

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to look at the world in that way to get

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out of the house to get away from the

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you know the electric lights and the

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electronic

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distractions and enjoy and appreciate

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the world starting with a tree in their

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own community

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absolutely well it's been really

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wonderful to talk with you and you've

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added a whole new dimension to our event

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on the 27th of september so we'll be

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looking at you again then and maybe you

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can be looking at the program at the

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same time

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so i i just want to say goodbye and

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continue to find out new things up in

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your little lab in the up in the up in

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the um above the planet and i'll be

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doing my bed down on the planet from the

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bottom and i'll be thinking of you so i

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well dr jane goodall the honor is ours

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it is truly an honor to meet you you've

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been an inspiration to us and

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and uh for for generations and thank you

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very much for your interest in in

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the human space flight program uh we're

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proud of the work we're doing here on

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the

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and uh just thank you very much and good

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day

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station this is houston acr that

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concludes the event thank you

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thank you dr jane goodall station please